When you’re trying to learn about older cars, you might as well be signing up for the debate club. Every question, especially when it comes to breaker points, electronic, and MSD ignition systems, are answered by someone chiming in and telling you about an upgrade you need to make. Forums, videos, articles, and even conversations in person, always drum up that result.
We get why folks do that, they’ve been through the wringer and trying to save you time by recommending that you make the upgrades they wish they did out of the gate. So, ultimately, you do want to listen to what they have to say. But, still, it does help to understand a little bit about why they’re saying it.
Never fear, Car Bibles’ top engine nerds are here to give you a horse in the race. While we might not be taking a look at how your options stack up against one another, we can still help you to understand what the difference between the three are and how they work so that you can make an educated decision on which you prefer.
So What Do These Systems Have in Common?
There are some key differences between these three systems that can seemingly set them worlds apart. And if we just dive in without explaining the similarities between them, we run the risk of leaving you slightly confused once the article comes to an end.
So, what’s a better way to begin the conversation of how they differ from one another than by talking about what they all have in common? To start, all three systems rely on a cam-driven distributor. As you know, the distributor houses a rotor that rotates with the camshaft to send spark to the cylinders as it passes over designated contacts in the distributor cap.
All three systems also work on a single coil for older cars. You might have that coil combined with the distributor in certain systems, but there’s still a single coil being used to transfer energy to the distributor.
An ignition coil is comprised of two circuits or two coil windings. The first, or primary coil, is where the power from your battery enters. As it passes through the windings, it creates a magnetic field that essentially charges the secondary winding, which offers much higher voltage than what’s coming in.
When the current in the primary windings is interrupted, it causes that magnetic field to collapse, which creates a stream of energy from the secondary coil, which is then sent through the distributor cap and is then directed to the appropriate cylinder to fire the spark plug.
Breaker points and electronic ignition create this interruption in different manners. MSD systems are a little different, which we’ll explain after the fact.
What Are Breaker Points?
Breaker points are subject to some serious verbal slamming, which may or may not be warranted.
The system works with a set of breaker points and, when those breaker points are in contact, the flow from the coils primary windings continue as normal. When they separate, the flow is interrupted and the charge from the secondary coil passes through the system.
The contacts of the breaker points are separated by a cam that rests on the shaft inside the distributor. As the cam opens the points, it interrupts the flow, creating enough current to fire the plugs. A condenser is also present to prevent an arc from jumping the gap between those points which would create a misfire.
Something to know about the points system is that it has as many strengths as it does weaknesses. Over time, the breaker points will wear down as do the condensers. You need to service that type of system and adjust them to accommodate for that wear and replace the breaker points more frequently than electronic systems. Even if they’re very cheap and easy to fix, that can be a major pain.
Not only that, but the physical connection between the points is at the mercy of the environment. Daily conditions can have a direct impact on their performance as moisture and debris make their way inside the distributor.
What is Electronic Ignition?
An electronic system solves the matter by eliminating the breaker points altogether. Instead, the distributor is fitted with a magnetic pickup that lines up with a reluctor wheel. This reluctor wheel has eight protruding points that line up with the magnetic pickup as the rotor lines up with contacts in the distributor cap.
When the pickup and the wheel line up, a pulse signal is sent from the ignition module to interrupt the flow of energy of the primary winding causing the secondary winding to discharge. The result of eliminating the breaker points is a more complex system, but it is one that ultimately delivers more consistency and therefore better reliability.
While it is easier to heed better performance results with an electronic ignition, there are those who stick to breaker points because they know how to dial in the system and don’t mind the shorter maintenance intervals.
What is Multiple Spark Discharge?
So, where does an MSD (multiple spark discharge) fit into this conversation? If you read the instructions, they can be used with either points or electronic distributors and don’t really change anything about either’s basic function.
We’ll be honest, MSD-type boxes, aren’t exactly in the same category, but more often than not, the conversation about points or electronic ignition drums up at least one or two points about the advantages of this upgrade. So we figure it’s only fair to help beginners to understand a little more about them.
An MSD system does a couple of things. First, as the name implies, it creates multiple sparks rather than one. In other words, when the coils secondary winding discharges, rather than one slow pulse, multiple are sent causing the plug to fire multiple times rather than just once during ignition. This multiple spark function works up to about 3,000 rpm then a single spark is sent at higher RPMs.
Capacitive discharge is another key component of these systems. Capacitors in the box are used to send much higher charges through the primary windings of the coil. Rather than the normal 12-14 volts entering the primary windings, you now have 550 or so volts entering. The advantage is that it allows the coil to create very powerful discharges very quickly.
That capacitive discharge aids with the multiple sparks at lower rpm and the single sparks at higher-revving ranges. What you wind up with is a system that’s able to promote a complete burn of the fuel mixture through the RPM range and is a go-to for exceptionally powerful engines that a stock-type ignition system may struggle to keep up with.
What is the Difference Between Them?
All three of these ignition systems work and you can get a car to motor around with any. Which you should consider ultimately comes down to your personal preference and the demand of your application.
Points take a lot of heat, and it is justifiable. The system is totally analog and it takes a little more attention to keep a points ignition system running right. An electronic system does away with a lot of the maintenance and uses a computer module to handle a lot of the brain work that goes with it. The result is a much more manageable system that you don’t need to monkey with as much to get the results you want.
An MSD system simply amplifies the system to promote a more complete burn of the fuel during the combustion cycle. Which makes a huge difference on some engines and little difference on others. A relatively stock application won’t have much trouble burning the fuel mixture where a more serious setup will, and by adding an MSD type system, you correct the issue increasing efficiency and power.
That’s not to say you can’t dial in your current system to make it work right, though. Don’t forget that electronic systems can use different modules that are better suited to different applications and you can upgrade from a single points distributor to a dual-points distributor. Which is the right move is dependent on your specific situation. As you can probably guess, that’s where your homework begins.
Car Bibles’ Glossary for Ignition Systems
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A device used on mechanically-timed ignition systems. It is comprised of a rotating shaft attached to the camshaft. As the camshaft spins that shaft, it also turns a rotor that comes in contact with contacts on the cap that sends spark to the appropriate cylinders.
An inductive coil that transforms the 12 volts supplied by the battery into thousands of volts that are necessary to ignite the fuel mixture.
The name of a brand and an abbreviation for Multiple Spark Discharge. Rather than sending one, long spark, these send multiple high-powered sparks.
Contact points within the distributor that cause power to flow through the system as necessitated by the engine cycle.
The Car Bibles Questionnaire
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Q: Are points better than electronic ignition?
A: Ultimately, points are outpaced by electronic ignition systems. Mostly due to the difference in the system’s general resilience to environmental factors. We can talk about the performance differences and which is better for making power, but that’s a different discussion entirely. At the end of the day, the reliability and hands-off nature of an electronic ignition make it a go-to for many.
Q: Does electronic ignition increase horsepower?
A: Not necessarily. If you have a neglected points distributor and move to an electronic system, you’re bound to see improvements. However, a basic points system vs. a basic electronic ignition is going to produce similar results. In fact, points can sometimes be even better. However, when you move onto more robust versions of either, you wander into new territory altogether. Things like HEI systems and dual points setups are still battling it out in tech discussions today.
Q: Does MSD really make a difference?
A: It will, but to what degree is subject to variation. If you have a stock engine with an ignition system that’s out of whack, you’ll certainly notice an improvement when installing an MSD type setup. If you have an ignition system that’s dialed in on that same engine, you might not notice much of a difference. However, if you have something with high compression or boost that generally pushes the limits of the stock ignition, and MSD will make major improvements.
Q: How long do ignition points last?
A: Ignition points have a notoriously short lifespan. Something like 15,000 miles is typical, whereas an electronic ignition is often double or better. However, troubleshooting and maintaining points are often more affordable and sometimes easier.
Q: Can you use MSD with an HEI distributor?
A: Yes, you can. In fact, many MSD boxes can be used with any type of ignition system. HEI systems generally don’t need much modification to incorporate the box, whereas many others will.
Video on Ignition Systems
Putting your mind’s eye to work can cause it to go blind. So, we wanted to give you a visual aid to better understand how this all works together. This video does depict the operation of a points-style system, but it’s an excellent starting point for anyone looking to understand ignition systems.
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